SammyServers and [ƒcƒc] moving forward...

1. First are foremost the idea of heavenforum.org (the TRUE owners of http://fcfc.heavenforum.org) being in possession of all user submitted posts is unfair. Unfair to the casual user of our forum to the officers trying to keep sanity in the forum. The TOS of heavenforum.org states all posts are their intellectual property because they allow free forums. SammyServers is gaining popularity and in turn making the forum grow faster. With SammyServers.com hosting its own forum, no matter what, the server controls it all DIRECTLY.
   
2. SammyServers.com is becoming ever more dynamic. From the types of games we host, to the type of player it attracts. After much discussion with key players, administrators, and owners, the idea of a "Clan" is no longer valid. A clan consists of a certain mindset among players, and anyone opposed is oppressed. The idea of a community better fits all of SammyServers. Players and members can still have a common way of playing games or feelings toward the server without that feeling being forced upon them. We will still have an application system, yet it will be based on more global standards that accommodate all games that we host.
   
3. There is an ever growing disparity between the dealings of SammyServers and [ƒcƒc]. The main fact that [ƒcƒc] only deals with Zombie Master is a big portion. Zombie Master while still dear to SammyServers, and will most likely stay that way, is not the whole server. With administration happenings on Gmod to the fact that regular players of ie Gmod have no clue what [ƒcƒc] is and why it matters. There needs to be a home for all of players. Also for the member of [ƒcƒc] this is mainly unfair to you! To go into a game you know is hosted by SammyServers and getting no feeling of being cause no one there knows what [ƒcƒc] is. That is wrong and must be changed.
   
4. Another, quite person reason that slightly made me think about things, was when I, Cherry, got elected as "Player Management" for [ƒcƒc] which I felt was quite ironic, considering that Player Management is more a server role. I feel that the clan believes they have a slight "hold" over the servers, and are free to do as they like with them. I do not know how Indigo is feeling about this, but I personally do not like this at all.
   
5. The final reason that springs to mind, is admins. I still do not see why people such as Pink, or Blue should have higher immunity than those people who have actually donated to help pay the server cost. Amongst these for example are Pingas, Nunia and Pallal. The fact that members of [ƒcƒc] are treated differently is unjust in my opinion.
   

• Any current member of [ƒcƒc] can automatically be a community member of http://forum.sammyservers.com. This being a member only forum area like [ƒcƒc] has, and other benefits soon to be announced. All that we ask is you make a *decent* post in the recruitment area, and once confirmed your an existing [ƒcƒc] member you will be accepted. With this said some [ƒcƒc] members have been down right nasty, yet most if not all will be accepted instantly. This cross grade will expire within 30 days of this post.
  
• http://forum.sammyservers.com will have zero hate / troll threads against [ƒcƒc]. To show zero malice to [ƒcƒc], this will be strictly enforced. We want all current and future members to have this feel as a simple move instead of a whole new launch.
  

Psycho wrote:6th (registered person in the SammyServers forum)
Well, Cherry's post is true, and point #4 and #5 especially are things I have thought about myself,too.
@Pallal: Well, I can't see much of elitism here anymore, seeing as there's been waves of ppl joining, just tagging on the clantag onto their old name *wink wink*

[ƒcƒc]≠ Cherry wrote:With recent changes in the makeup of SammyServers, and the "staff" of [ƒcƒc] affecting the flow of SammyServers, change is needed...

1. ...With SammyServers.com hosting its own forum, no matter what, the server controls it all DIRECTLY.
   
2. ...The idea of a community better fits all of SammyServers...
   
3. ...There needs to be a home for all of players...
   
4. ...I feel that the clan believes they have a slight "hold" over the servers, and are free to do as they like with them. ...I personally do not like this at all.
   
5. ...I still do not see why people such as Pink, or Blue should have higher immunity than those people who have actually donated to help pay the server cost... The fact that members of [ƒcƒc] are treated differently is unjust in my opinion.
   

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[ƒcƒc]≠ Cherry wrote: I still do not see why people such as Pink, or Blue should have higher immunity than those people who have actually donated to help pay the server cost.

Spoiler:

Kouta wrote:Really I don't like the idea of this new forum, no matter how much you don't want it to feel like us leaving ƒcƒc, that's how it feels like or at the very least diminishing the clan/name to a point, one thing I thought, when I joined the server/clan, I thought ƒcƒc owned the servers and Cherry, Indigo owned the clan but I guess that's not it.

but I still see some good points Cherry said, thus why I actually TRIED to sign up for the new forums, though it kept saying the code I was putting in was wrong some how, so I couldn't sign up.

I don't completely like what's happening but I'll agree to it, is how I feel.

[ƒcƒc]± Furry Red Cock wrote:HE SAID MY NAME !
SWEET.
I HAVEN'T BEEN FORGOTTEN !!!